Yeah Henry should not have been there, at least he can try be funny if he is going to be so blantaly biast.

I don't get why when talking about coalitions etc nobody ever talks about the prospect of the Maori Party going back with Labour, it is more where they fit and where most of their people would prefer them to be.

Paul Henry couldn't be impartial if he tried.

Goff kicked ass in that debate. It's the best performance I've seen from him. Key just came off as a smarmy rich prick. Which he is.

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The problem with the debate was that Campbell didn't dedicate a whole section to Labours bat shit policies.... but did have one for the Asset sales.

So Goff got away with spouting slogans, and Key was stuck defending the whole time.

But yeah, TV3.

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I'm pretty sure they did talk about raising the minimum wage to $15.

I did think they would talk about the Super policy (a shame most NZers are to selfish to realise it is what needs to be done).

Also with how talk about the under class boosted Goff last night, if spun right (and the way it should be as its a good policy) the Capital Gains Tax could actually work out as a booster for Goff. Labour should've gotten in with a financial transaction tax as well.

That's hardly the achilles heel for Labour. Can't even remember if they spoke about the Capital gains tax at all...or how the increases for lower incomes wouldn't happen for another 3 elections....

Mind you, I doubt that would have affected the almighty and all knowing WORM!

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Capital Gains Tax was mentioned, still another debate on Wednesday remember.

Even though it favoured my candidate i hated the worm if not for the fact it was so bloody distracting.

Yeah I won't be watching that Over it now. No one has anything new to say - so I can't imagine what the hell they're going to talk about on Wednesday. If it was an all parties thing then it might be worth it.

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I'm not sure if anyone in the house will let me watch another one.

It was an interesting watch...if a little leftist. Was waiting for the 'vote Labour!' at the end.

it did raise some really good points, and some that kinda missed the mark.

The whole Sweden segment was kinda irrelevant as they pay something like 60% tax over there ( I know Norway has crazy tax too which is how they can afford to have mums off for 57 weeks paid parental leave etc... Plus they omg drill for oil!!). Good luck trying to get that in NZ.

Though, I'd happily pay more tax if it meant every kid gets free health care and breakfast every day...but an even better idea would be to scrap WFF and pay for it with that.

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When is the election??

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Im pro WFF (and not because my family gets it) because it gives families the option of a small supplement if one parent stays home to raise there child instead of just dumping them in a daycare centre where they dont get the same attention. I for one have no idea who I'm voting for come the weekend though, it could almost be just throw the pen at the paper and choose who ever it leaves an ink mark next too.

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You should vote United Future for the Income Sharing tax then...though that's pretty much a wasted vote at this point...

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Unless you live in Peter Dunnes electorate, but then don't vote for him anyway for Charles Chauvel.

HL the election is on Saturday.

I'm going to be dissapointed when it is over, this is the only interesting thread in this place at the moment.

Dumping? I've got to say I find that quite offensive language!

I certainly do not dump my child at daycare! She actually really enjoys it and gets far more interaction with children of her own age than if I was at home with her all day.

Personally, I feel every child should go to daycare from a certain age, at least part time, so when they go to school they're already used to the school environment, the not having undivided attention and having to share.

Buuuuut, I'm off topic here I also like WFF.

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Hey bro, Skrippy says you're dumb.

I think that is what he means, people sticking their children in daycare every day, most of the day. I think as you said to me the idea of children getting social interaction at a young age sounds like a good idea, but time in day care in the earlier stages need to be limited (i say this but to be honest my knowledge around children isn't that high)

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I like that the one person who chose Jim Anderton realised he's not standing and changed their vote to Labour.

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i like how you noticed that happened and brought it to my attention.

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I didn't mean to offend but we don't want our children in daycare for 8 to 10 hours a day. I do agree that kids need to go to day care and our boy goes twice a week

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This is why I'm against extending paid parental leave in NZ to 6 months... the parent/s need to make a decision. Either quit your job to raise your child through the formulative years or go back to work and manage... why the hell would you expect your job to be left open for you in this climate?

It's ridiculous. Let's be the benefactor of our own planning and not be greedy.

So you are saying a mother either has to go back to work straight after the baby or quit her job? 6 months isn't that long and the least we can offer (it'd be nicer if it could be more) to mothers to allow them time to stay home and look after their child in its first few months in the world, with out them having to worry about having a job to go back to. Our society has created a world were both parents need to work, so as a society if we want a future generation the least we can do is offer support. Other wise we will end up with a lot of parents out of work or people chosing not to have children, when in this country we need them to.

People just need to plan for children. Thats all. Unfortunately the people that can't afford children don't plan, but have them anyway.

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In NZ we get 14 weeks paid parental leave. And taking into consideration that most pregnant women find they have to finish work at least a couple of weeks earlier than their EDD it means a lot of new mothers have to go back to work when their child is just a couple of months old.

I had to finish work 6 weeks before my EDD with Liliana for medical reasons. Luckily (in some respects) I was induced 2 weeks early. I returned to work when she was 2 1/2 months old but I couldn't put up with being apart from her so I quit my job and we struggled on 1 wage until she was 8 months old and I felt she was old enough to go to daycare.

In England when I had my sons I had 6 months paid parental leave (something like 3 months full pay and 3 months 70%, I can't remember the exact detail).

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Hey bro, Skrippy says you're dumb.

<3 you. It's really not that difficult to plan and make a decision, but the people having the most children seem to often be the stupidest.

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Yeah...lets give them 12 months of maternity leave...great idea...then people will stop employing women altogether...lets not be naive, it goes on now that young women of child bearing age get passed over in the job market in case they get themselves preggers...extending marternity leave will only make it worse.
I have been in a position where I have been in charge if hiring staff and there is no way in hell I would employ a young woman who has just recently gotten married...just asking for trouble!!!

Sorry 1oak...but thats life in the real world!!

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