Well yes, of course, it isn't an option now and I doubt it will be for the foreseeable future. So people have no choice but to deal with it!

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Hey bro, Skrippy says you're dumb.

Since when?? Details please.




What problem is that??



They are taxed more already. 20% of $1,000,000 is a lot more than 20% of $1000 so therefore they pay more tax. Why punish someone for working hard and making a ton of money by making them pay exorbitant taxes..wouldn't that be counter productive and make people think twice about telling the truth about how much they have. If I was a multimillionaire and I thought the government was after my money I would sure as fuck find some place to hide it...somewhere like Switzerland. Forcing people to take money out of the country by over taxing them wouldn't be good for the economy I wouldn't have thought.

Another thing I've never understood...why are people who are trying to get ahead in life by getting a second job punished by paying secondary tax??
Surely if this person is willing to work hard to provide for his family he should get a reduced tax rate for his second job...this would encourage more people to get a second job and to improve their lives. Or am I missing something??

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I would seriously vote for Swanny.

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I would need to hear what his policies on global warming are before I fully commit to voting for him.

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HL you clearly have not seen the difference between the dirt poor and the rich in this country, even between the poor and the middle class and the middle class and the wealthy. Hell there is even a lower middle and upper middle class these days. I think sometimes you need to step outside your own world.

This 'Global Financial Crisis' word that people like to throw around so much, the one that was caused by irresponsible financial institutes, food crisis that are caused by speculation.

Yes they are taxed more, but at the end of the day they are still going to have more. I do realise that you need like that in terms of bringing in capital, wealth. But i do not believe in the trickle down economy, i believe to help the economy survive money needs to be put into the hands of the poor and by doing that in itself will help those at the top who own the business etc. It isn't about punishing those at the top, it is about helping those at the bottom. It is about realising that the wealth distribution is becoming more and more unequal and those with the wealth are going out of their way to make sure it stays with them, often through immoral and quite often illegal means (white collar crime is where the focus needs to be and is only just starting to get attention). They gain their wealth through the sweat and blood of the workers (which you have to realise i'm not talking about rich i am talking abour really wealthy here).

See I keep hearing that phrase being thrown around...but if it is happening it hasn't affected me yet. And what food crisis?? I went to my local Woolworths yesterday...plenty of food.



Why?? Why pick on someone because he has more than you...your politics sound more and more like some snotty nosed kid who throws a tantrum cos the kid next door has the latest toy and he doesn't...fucking grow up...life is not fair. Deal with it.




**speechless**





How about they start trying to help themselves before we go throwing money at them...got a poor paying job...then do some study, improve your mind and you improve your chances of getting a promotion or a new better paying job.




I hate all this wealth distibution bollocks...if your not getting paid enough then do something about it...having a cry because other people get paid more than you is just infantile.

So basically your policies sound to me like....

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa it's not fair, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa how come he has lots of money and I have none, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...is that about right??

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I can't argue with you as it is apparent you know nothing outside of your own front door, how someone has lived so long and is so ignorant to the hardships endured by their fellow humans is astonishing. Its amazing how many people don't understand how one basic formula doesn't work for all, its not as simple as you think it is, maybe in you're life but evryones circumstances are different.

What food crisis? The supermarket has plenty is up there with George W Bush in terms of dumbest things ever said. You are on the internet, try using it to research what's going on in the world.

I really just don't care about other peoples problems. If someone down the road has no money..that is their problem, not mine, why am I expected to bail them out...sort ya own problems out!!



Had a quick google and as far as I can tell there is famine in some African countries....again.....once again not my problem...if they haven't got enough food to feed their kids, maybe they should stop having kids.
Someone could make a killing if they opened a chippy there!!

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Nigga you be trollin'

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God, yes. Every time.

I'm rethinking my Green party vote, as I'm worried it's just going to end up being a vote for National. I haven't been paying attention - has either party ruled out coalitioning with the other?

I wouldn't mind Goff as PM, because I think he's a decent politician and I don't rate charisma as a vital element of being a good leader (plus the alternative is John Key, who I just find offensive), but I don't think I want to put my party vote behind some of Labour's policies.

So I'm not so much undecided as I am lacking an appealing option. It'd be awesome if the election involved voting on each party's policy for the core portfolios, with whichever party's policy wins getting ministership of that portfolio, and whichever gets the most portfolios having their leader as PM

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No, but to paraphrase Russel Norman, "we share so few policies, National would be very unlikely to agree to govern with us, so it's very unlikely."

So Green will govern with National, provided National surrender many of their own self-defining policies. And a National-Green government that won't sell assets, defend the RMA and institute a CGT would be fine by me to be honest.

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F**k off, Brock, f**k off.

I loved how John Key desperately tried to avoid giving a straight answer as to whether he'd go with the Greens...

"Well the Greens have said they'd prefer to go with Labour."
"Yes, but would National agree to go with the Greens?"
"Well, y'know, the Greens have said they won't go with us..."
"I know, but would you work with the Greens...?"
"Uh, it's my preference to work with other parties, but if the Greens hold the balance of power, they've said they will go with Labour anyway..."

*votes for the Greens party: Rising*

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"Why all the pearls? Why all the hair? Why anything?"

I'm interested to hear from National supporters if the possiblity of them governing alone makes them more likely to vote for them to allow them to do it, or more likely to vote for a different party to stop that? I guess on the right there are less real alternatives.

I know personally i wouldn't want Labour governing alone and in previous years have looked at voting Greens to help pull Labour to the left or because i didn't like particular policies. But the right seems to be more in favour of the FPP style, so i don't know if these considerations extend to them.

Oh and Amy vote Mana.
One thing that has annoyed me this election is how everything has just been around debt and not rushed search and survellence laws, skynet bills, Nationals over use of 'under urgency', national standards, Food bills etc etc it just seems socially we are going backwards after years of a Labour which gave us things such as Civil Unions, Prostitution reform etc

I think voting Green at this point makes sense. It seems a given that National is going to govern, and by voting Green at least it means they might be able to get some of their policies through and keep National somewhat honest.

I think Goff has improved alot over this campaign, someone has media-trained the hell out of him, and it's finally working. Plus, he doesn't sound like a tipsy westie mum. </3 Key.

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I don't think Id want National to govern alone, but it won't stop me voting for them. If the alternative is the Labour Hydra coalition - yeah, no thanks.

Oh, and we were going backwards with Labour - or do you forget Helen and her Nanny state. Remember the whole shower heads thing?

Im happy to see the Greens polling around where they are now - would be good to have a 3rd major party in the next election. If the continue to move away from the activist style that they started with, I can see that happening easily. Though they're probably relying on a few more environmental disasters to get some more votes.

Labour shot themselves in the foot this election. 1 - Goff should have been gone last year, if not before. And 2 - they should have focused on some of their better policies, like the CGT. The Asset sales was making them no ground - neither was the minimum wage, and that was evident WEEKS ago, so they needed to come out with a plan B, but they didn't. They just had Goff spouting the same slogans over and over.

I can see it being a bit closer than some expect tomorrow. Hopefully Winston fades away.

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Helen ruled out the shower heads, but Key kept lying about it anyway.

Debt's risen significantly under National, and there's no economic plan to get us out of it.

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^^^what an intelligent comment.

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I laugh at National votes going on about a Nanny State under Labour when it is National that has far more conservative social policies that restrict the freedoms and choices of the individual (well unless it is to do with the free market, where we need more restrictions). Difference is Labour wanted to make policies to protect the weak and powerless in society, National wants to make policies to make moral judgements about how you can/can't live your life and moving us more towards a tolitarian/police state society.

Oh and c'mon people unless the polls are hugely wrong a Labour led 4 party coallition isn't happening, particularly when Goff has ruled out working with Mana (yet National columinst seem to ignore this). National/Maori party coallition is my pick and Conservatives if they can pick up Rodney (hopefully with ACT and United Future out of Parliament)

Ugh - Sue Bradford. FOAD.

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Some good polls for Winston today-6.5% in the final Roy Morgan, and 5.2% in the final Herald Digipoll. People are working out the quirks and permutations of MMP, and that the only way to stop John Key ruling alone is by voting for New Zealand First.

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^^^what an intelligent comment.

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I was thinking everyone talks about the Labour 4 headed beast, yet the current lot has 4 National/ACT/Maori/United Future. If Conservatives do well you could throw them in there to make it the National 5 headed beast *goes off to do some scaremongering*.

You go a link to those polls?

Roy Morgan: http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4724/

The Herald poll is on www.nzherald.co.nz somewhere.

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^^^what an intelligent comment.

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Tomorrow is gonna be such a range of emotions. Ah well we are having an election party here so that'll be fun.

Oh and swanny on that pic i'll let the Bible do the talking “And again I say to you that it is easier for a camel to enter the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God.”

- yeah if the bible is your point of reference, then you're really in trouble.

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