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This week our PPV and Wellington Scene Reporter David Dunn asks the tough questions. David wants our thoughts on TNA's upcoming extreme-themed pay-per-view, what we think of the newest member of the Straight Edge Society, and when we realised we were in love with pro-wrestling.
David's own comments are denoted by italics, and he's glad you could join us for this week's special edition of Gimme Five.
1) TNA debuts an extreme-themed pay-per-view in August, HardCORE Justice, not unlike WWE's One Night Stand in 2005. Are you excited by the concept of another ECW revival, or would TNA be better off focusing on original storylines and leaving ECW's legacy alone?
Kirsty: I would be more enthusiastic about it if I had a bit more faith in TNA's booking and management. As it is, the combination of Hulk Hogan and Vince Russo has proved to be a complete car crash. With that in mind, I'd have to say that yes, I think TNA should leave ECW's legacy alone.
Luke: No, Im not excited by another ECW revival. I think that the original ECW had a great send-off in 2005 with the One Night Stand ppv. The talent of the old ECW are even more seasoned today than they were in 2005 and TNA need to think of some original storyline ideas rather than rehashing history... again. I mean, we have seen the nWo revival, WCW 2.0 all year long and now this? ECW's legacy, the original ECW and Paul Heyman's baby had the grand send-off it deserved. It's dead, buried, finished. Let's look into the future and produce something new which feds in 20 years time will look back and want to replicate.
Dion: I'm sure it'll be great for fans of the original ECW, but I doubt it will help TNA's immediate goal of pushing WWE to the limit. With respect, I don't believe ECW has the widespread pulling power that some within the industry think it does.
Scott: TNA? Meh.
Matt: I loved the heartfelt Tommy Dreamer-led promo to cap off iMPACT! last week, and felt that TNA was really on to it capturing the sentiment about what Vince had done to the E-C-Dub legacy over the past few years. If Dixie Carter is right, and this is going to be a genuine ECW revival booked and delivered by true E-C-Dub alumni, then HardCORE Justice might just signal a turning point for TNA’s ho-hum ppvs thus far this year. As far as the ECW legacy goes, this will go a long way to restoring the damage done by WWE and the more ECW alumni that jump on board the more mileage it will have (you hear me Heyman!). The crowd chants for Sabu at the end of the show was time travelling at its best!
Yes! I've not been watching iMPACT! for obvious reasons, but the highlight packages on YouTube that I have seen make this look like it could be quite the special show. I'll be trying to watch the ppv one way or another.
Simon: Hell yeah! ECW Reunions Always Work! Right? Right? *Damn sarcasm button is not working*
2) The Miz came close to cashing in his Money in the Bank briefcase on RAW and taking the title from Sheamus. Will Miz become WWE Champion when he does choose to use the case, or will he make history as the first man to unsuccessfully cash in on Money in the Bank?
Kirsty: I'm hoping that he'll be the first to unsuccessfully cash that briefcase in, as I said in last week's G5. I don't think he's ready for the top title yet, but if they give him a good run with the briefcase, the way they did with Edge, it could do wonders building him for an evental main event spot.
Luke: I think that the Miz will become WWE Champion by cashing it in. When? Who knows. Not now. He's not yet ready for the big one just yet. I think if they play their cards with him correctly, he could be a big player in a year's time. That, and I would love to see the MITB cashed in at WrestleMania too.
Dion: The Miz is growing on me. Quickly. He will no doubt become WWE Champion at some stage, but I get this feeling that he will become the first MitB holder to have an epic fail when cashing in time comes.
Scott: You know, while I might love to see Miz win a world championship when he uses the briefcase, I also think he could be someone who turns not winning it into a bonus. The guy has it, the talent, the look, the drive; given the right booking a storyline involving him unsuccessfully cashing in the briefcase could see him along to main event WrestleMania as well as a storyline where he holds the belt.
Yes, that’s right, I said it. Miz will main event WrestleMania. Don’t laugh; I predicted both Sheamus and Jack Swagger, remember!
I wasn't sure whether Miz could become champ by cashing in Money in the Bank, but now I hope he does just to ruin your string of unlikely predicitions, Scott!
Matt: “Mid-card Mizano” has no hope of becoming WWE champ. I reckon they’ll string his half-assed cash-in attempts out for a year until he is forced to cash it in to the most overwhelming opponent, and even then he won’t come up with the shiny-shiny.
Simon: I'd like to see The Miz shat on big time. I'd like to see them use the briefcase as a prop for him for a while and then for him to cash it in and fail. Big time. Comedy-styles.
3) Big Show exposed Joey Mercury as the masked Straight Edge Society member on SmackDown; was he who you were expecting to be under the mask? Where does the SES go now that both Mercury and Punk have been unmasked?
Kirsty: I think that anyone who has been reading the news sites knew it was Joey Mercury under there. I would have been surprised if it wasn't... and to tell the truth, I was kind of hoping we were being swerved there.
I think that SES still have a lot of great possibilities. As a stable they have all the elements, and there are still a lot of creative paths to be explored. As yet there hasn't really been any dissention in the ranks - always compelling when it does happen!
Luke: As a keen follower of wrestling news, I was aware that Mercury was under the mask so that did not surprise me. Though, if I hadn't known, I wouldn't have been fussed.
I'm not sure where the SES will go now, the 'E have kind of got muddy with this stable despite its popularity among smart fans and as a great heel faction among others. I think that the stable still has a lot of juice in it and there are a lot of areas it can explore. I would love to see the strap on CM Punk again and really make the SES a powerful force to reckon with. I think though, until Punk is 100% healthy after his recent injury, the cogs will start turning again and this group will have a more prominent role on SmackDown!
Dion: Certainly wasn't expecting him. I'll never forget that vicious facial injury he received during a Ladder Match at Armageddon 2006. Good to see SES expanding somewhat. The faction still has a lot of legs.
Scott: To the bar. The SES needs to drink some real ale to put some hair on their heads. Honestly, “the real ale society” would suit their beards better, too.
Matt: Man… that dude is brave given his face was smashed to bits during “that” ladder match back in the day. I think Punk needs to cast off the hangers on sooner rather than later. All for giving the mediocre a means for getting over, but Festus and Co. are fast looking like having as much clique chemistry/star power as The Oddities had.
Simon: I also knew that it was Mercury and echo the sentiment that if I didn't know I would not have cared. I'd like to see Mercury in another Ladder match getting nailed in the snoz again. That was his best contribution to WWE so far. The Straight Edge Society gimmick really only works because of CM Punk. Sure he needs followers and a gang but they can be anyone. And like most WWE gimmicks it's not been that well planned out, rather winged week to week, so I'm sure they'll turn Punk again soon, for no reason, then return him well and truly to the lower mid-card. A shame really.
Mercury getting nailed in the snoz was his best contribution to WWE? That's a bit harsh, Simon! What about... um... on second thought, perhaps you're right.
4) Brock Lesnar is the UFC Heavyweight Champion. Mickie James released her debut album, Strangers & Angels, earlier this year. Whose career do you continue to follow long after they've moved on from wrestling?
Kirsty: The Rock. I don't watch all his movies but I do keep an eye on him to see how he's doing. During Bret Hart's hiatus I always kept up with him too - how his book was doing, his Aladdin shows etc. For a laugh I used to read the Ultimate Warrior's blog but he soon became boring. I keep up with Steve Austin on Twitter - I love the way he tells the most outrageous lies with a totally "straight face." Anyone who hasn't read the "Chickensauras story" is missng out. And hearing him expand on the subject of good wine - yes you read that right!
Luke: I still follow The Rock and Stone Cold's movie careers. I have really enjoyed what Austin has made so far, with the highly anticipated The Expendables coming out very soon. I wish I could say the same about some of Rocky's films, but I still continue to follow them. Like Kirsty, I follow Austin on Twitter, which is quite humorous. I read Paul Heyman's blogs, JR's blogs and Lance Storm's blogs when I have time. Apart from them and Brock Lesnar, I don't tend to follow many others. Most are working backstage as agents, trainers or doing their own thing.
Dion: Probably Brock Lesnar's the most. I'm a massive fan of The Rock, but I couldn't tell you what his next movie is. Lesnar on the other hand? I'll never miss him in the Octagon. The guy is a freak - in the best possible way.
I think you'll find Dwayne Johnson's next film is Faster, in which he plays an ex-convict avenging his brother's death. After that he's part of a massive cast in The Other Guys, too.
Scott: Honestly, only Dwayne Johnson’s. He is a great great actor, able to inhabit a multitude of roles. I look forward to seeing what he does once his contract with Disney is over.
Matt: Mickie who? Brock is so big he managed to get Austin, The Rock and Goldberg all in the same room and riding on his coat tails at the last UFC PPV. Heyman was flashing pictures of his kid with Brock to the UFC camera crews for God's sake!
Simon: I will probably buy any book that Mick Foley releases - even the ones he writes under the name Stephen King. I will probably rent any movie that has an ex-wrestler or current wrestler in it, usually to see them fail spectacularly. Why? It's just who I am. Don't judge me. It's my job to judge you! I own "Wrestlemaniac" on DVD with Rey Misterio in it; that'd be "a" Rey-Rey, not "the" Rey-Rey; his uncle or something... I do enjoy a bit of trash and wrestlers are responsbile for loads of it.
You mean to tell me that none of you have been keeping up with Maria Kanellis' career? For shame! Her EP, Seven Sins, is available on iTunes for a mere $7.99, by the way. Go! Buy!
5) Most of us have been watching wrestling since we were children; when did you know you were a wrestling fan? Was it love at first sight, or something that grew on you over time?
Kirsty: I remember the moment like it was yesterday. I was at boarding school - was still the "new girl" - and during one of my first Friday nights my new friend Claire said I had to check out WWF Superstars of Wrestling. Lots of the junior girls watched it on Friday nights as we weren't allowed out. At first I remember wondering what the hell was going on, until "Ravishing" Rick Rude came out, gyrated himself in the ring, flexed his abs, insulted the fans and then laid a huge pash on a ringside girl, causing her to swoon. It was so OUTRAGEOUS! And I was hooked.
Luke: It was love at first sight. I think I answered this question a few weeks ago about how I got into wrestling, but I remember my mother was watching it one night and I caught a glimpse of it. Curious, and as a kid way past his bed time, I got up, asked what it was and watched it. After that, my life was never the same...
Dion: It was love at second sight for me. I remember seeing On the Mat out of the corner of my eye when I was young... and I remember finding the burly wrestlers too scary to watch! When WWF hit our screens in 1988 - I was hooked from the first episode of Superstars of Wrestling.
I'm the same as you, Dion, only in a different era. The first time I can remember seeing RAW, Austin was beating up Mr. McMahon, and I was scared for his safety. It wasn't until I caught Survivor Series 2000 maybe a month or two later that I realised what I'd been missing out on.
Scott: As a kid it might’ve been "love at first sight" but it wasn’t a long lasting love. I went away for over a decade, came back via a few documentaries that made me think about what I’d seen as a kid, then back into the modern WWE via video games and TV. But when I did I realise I was a fan? Who thought about it, wanted to talk about it? Loved professional wrestling?
It might sound perverse, but it was when Eddie Guerrero died. Immediately afterwards was my mother’s birthday, but all I could think about, talk about, was Eddie, the tribute shows, his legacy. At that moment I realised something about this entertainment, this way I’d waste a few weekend hours without thinking about work, was something far more important to me than just another television programme. I cared. I really did.
Matt: I loved wrestling when I was a kid... but I knew I was hooked when (as a nubile 14 year old) I traded with a mate my raunchiest leather-clad Lita Ford (rock goddess of The Runaways and Ozzy Osbourne collaboration fame) poster for a copy of WrestleMania IV. As a mullet-clad bogan boy I would have crawled on broken glass for that poster dammit! Definitely love at first sight… or rather “love at first suplex”. The moment I learnt my first few wrestling moves (small package, DDT, side suplex) I was hooked!
Simon: I was instantly addicted when I first saw it way back in the mid/late 80s, in Aussie, on holiday. The Junkyard Dog lured me in - his chains, his barking - superb. I loved it. The fact that everyone in my family thought it utterly ridiculous only pleased me more. I watched it for about 2 years and was fairly well obsessed. Then I left it on the shelf for about a decade and half and then picked up where I left off... I often cringe at it now; I more often dislike it than like it. But I can't look away for long... |
I'd like it noted that I'm predicting The Miz in a main event (i.e. a World title match) at WrestleMania XXVII, whether or not he goes in as champ. He might be using the briefcase to go for a title, may have already had won a title, or even have used the briefcase unsuccessfully and now be involved in trying to get another shot at the top. But I'm sticking to this one; I predicted Sheamus as WWE Champ, and Swagger to win a title and win it quickly. Miz will be in one of next year's WrestleMania main events! John Morrison, on the other hand, will be phoning Marty Jannetty for career advice.
Comment by Scott on 2010-07-29 01:35:14 |
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